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Poster: cathyftr Date: Jun 28, 2010 6:49pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Copyright and TV commercials - How are commercials copyrighted

I could be wrong but I believe commericals, at least the older ones ( before 1980 ) are in public domain since back in those days who would expect such things to stir an interest with anyone many years later? Of course that changed in 1982 when NBC had aried a special with Tim Conway called "TV's Greatest Commericals". I seem to remember at the time Conway was interviewed on Entertainment Tonight making some claim that the special was "done on the cheap since the ads were all in public domain". Anyway the special was a hit and more were to follow for a number of years afterward. Today OTOH I am pretty sure the ads are not in PD actually a friend of mine last year had uploaded an old ad for Butterfinger Candy Bars starring Bart Simpson..only to have it yanked from that site but it wasn't by Butterfinger but rather it by FOX.

However with that being said that is not to say that there are those who had tried over the years to get some old ads pulled only to had find out the ads were in PD. If memory serves correctly I am pretty sure about 10 years ago both Mary Tyler Moore and Dick Van Dyke tried to get their old ads for Kent Cigarettes pulled from You Tube only to find out they couldn't even though they appeared in them.

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Poster: adamelijah Date: Jun 28, 2010 7:12pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Copyright and TV commercials - How are commercials copyrighted

Prior to March 1, 1989, I believe you had to include a copyright notice, and most commercials didn't do that.

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Poster: cathyftr Date: Jun 28, 2010 8:47pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Copyright and TV commercials - How are commercials copyrighted

1989? What ya know...one learns something new everyday.

Today I think the only things on TV that may be in PD are the local ads though even if they are in PD, its still not safe to upload due to restrictions. In other words a local TV or radio ad in Phoenix may not be allowed to be heard say in Buffalo due to contracts. A great example is radio/TV ads for so-called medical marijuana. Illegal in West Virginia and Virginia but commonplace in Denver. This sort of thing is why Chicago's WGN doesn't show its morning newscast on WGN America. Not because there isnt any interest but due to the commericals and features that are can only air in Chicago.

This post was modified by cathyftr on 2010-06-29 03:47:55

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Poster: adamelijah Date: Jun 28, 2010 8:52pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Copyright and TV commercials - How are commercials copyrighted

After March 1, 1989, everything produced anywhere is copyrighted notice or not (and works produced between 1977-89 had five years to rectify the lack of a notice), so the local commercials are copyrighted, people just don't get sued for putting them on You Tube, because that's why they make the commercials.

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Poster: cathyftr Date: Jun 29, 2010 4:47pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Copyright and TV commercials - How are commercials copyrighted

True..but people don't get sued for uploading anything on You Tube or elsewhere..it would be You Tube that would get sued if they don't take a copyrighted clip down from the site. Reason being is the the studios really can't/don't want to get involve with the average Joe so they go after the site themselves. Besides can you imagine what would happen say to a big company like Viacom or some major advetrriser like Pepsi-Cola if they would sue that 18 year old Indianapolis girl in a wheelchair if she would upload an episode of Dexter or an ad for Mountain Dew onto You Tube? Do they really expect the girl in that wheelchair to cough up the millions? Talk about bad public relations !! Much easier to go after You Tube since they are the ones who have the "money".

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Poster: adamelijah Date: Jun 29, 2010 5:37pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Copyright and TV commercials - How are commercials copyrighted

True, but the reason YouTube doesn't get sued is because the companies want it there.

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Poster: Meatpies Date: Jun 29, 2010 9:53am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Copyright and TV commercials - How are commercials copyrighted

If this is the case, I will be uploading a ton of commercials very soon! Yes, I mean it! I need something to do, since I'm just sitting here waiting for August to get here so I can get on with the rest of my life! I've already watched everything on fear.net (I am a sucker for even BAD scary movies)... so I can start uploading sometime today or tomorrow. I'll post links when I get enough of them uploaded to be worth the look.